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Pat Harbison
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Topic: Lead, follow or get out of the way!Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 15:28 |
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Over the last few weeks I have played in a wide variety of cirumstances with an array of vastly different kinds of groups; mostly but not totally jazz groups, large groups and small groups, groups with only one trumpet and groups where I was a member of a section. Each has had their own set of challenges and unique rewards. The thread John Sheets started in the "Coffee House" got me to thinking about this quite a lot.
On New Year's Eve I played a jazz trio gig with a couple of very talented young guys (guitar and string bass) who were about the age of my children. I realized that I had first learned many of the (jazz standard) tunes we were playing a decade or more before they were born.
About 10 days later I found myself onstage with a jazz quintet we have been developing where I feel like I am clearly the guy with least chops and the least recent performance activity. Everyone in the group is between the ages of 35 & 57-all very experienced pro players. I felt like I was alternately hanging on for dear life and being swept along by everyone else's energy and creativity.
Of course, in between there were several other gigs that fell somewhere between those poles. However, it was really the juxtaposition of those two gigs-me being the strongest and the weakest link in close succession that got me thinking about this topic.
How do these kinds of different circumstances impact how I conduct myself on a gig or in a rehearsal? How does it effect my thinking? My demeanor? My physical skills? My emotional state? What are the pros and cons of each situation?
I'll be contributing thoughts over time here. However, I wanted to throw it open to all of you and also get your take on any aspect of this.
Discuss....
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Derek Reaban
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Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 18:25 |
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Pat, I mentioned in the John Sheets post getting to play in a number of different musical opportunities over the past month. I found that there were a number of very real situations that presented themselves in each group, and my response was different in each case. When I subbed with the Phoenix Symphony, I was clearly playing with musicians that could read circles around me. When I am in this situation, my concentration level bumps up several notches, and I find that while I’m playing the part exactly as noted, I’m more mechanical in my approach. I had a nice unison line with the 2nd trumpet in the Les Miserables arrangement that we did. We sounded like one instrument, and I felt great about how that phrase turned out. At another point, the 2nd player leaned over and said, “Read the 2nd part on the first time through at 73 and then play your part on the repeat”. This was about 32 bars before the entrance, during the show, and I just read it without thinking. It was a prominent duet and we were out there for all to hear. Then the 1st player joined us on the repeat and we had a three part harmony. All went well, but I just felt a little off balance through this whole performance, and even though I played well, I felt like I couldn’t really enjoy it because everything was moving so fast (no time to enjoy what was going on). The little community band playing Christmas Carols was just fun, and I was able to add descant lines here and there to make it more interesting. Everyone in this group was doing the best that they could, and even though I was sight reading with them (couldn’t make the one rehearsal due to other commitments), I had a great time. Since these were “one time” events with large groups, I’m sure I acted differently than I would in my other more familiar playing situations. In the Wind Ensemble that I play with (a very good group), every once in a while, there will be a concert where lots of little things happen that affect me negatively. I played one of these concerts last week (at a retirement place) and things just kept compounding. It was a very rainy night when I showed up, and I was a little late getting out the door. I showed up about 20 minutes before show time when I had planned on getting there at least 30 minutes in advance. The room was very dead, and we were crowded and uncomfortable close. The room was also very hot. As I was warming up, I felt great, and everything was working well. The guy that I was sitting beside had his cornet instead of his trumpet (I found out that both his trumpet and laptop had been stolen from his band room earlier in the day). Well, the first couple of pieces turned out fine. Then little things started to happen down the section with crazy bad sounds, missed entrances, missed key signatures, you name it! After about 5 or 6 of these things I found my attention starting to drift away from the music and to what might happen next. And that’s when I started missing! I was getting hot, and the room was starting to frustrate me! I guess I was able to hold everything together longer than most, but this type of problem is the most difficult for me to deal with (the unexpected mistakes that divert my musical thoughts to, “What the #$*# was that?”). My other most common performance opportunity is playing solos at church with the best piano player I’ve ever gotten to work with (he was in the collaborative piano program at ASU). I find that I’m able to communicate with him more easily that just about anyone else that I work with. He listens to me and I listen to him, and I know that there aren’t going to be any weird mistakes. We’re just making music at a very high level! He asked me to play at his old Church for a dedication service (they built a new Sanctuary over the past year), and I’ll be doing Oliver’s Birthday with him and possibly something else. It’s going to be great (this is the same guy that I did the first movement of the Hindemith with a year or so ago). I find that when I’m most relaxed and know that I’m going to be making music at a speed that is “just right” for me and with other musicians that aren’t going to “fold”, I can really say something with my music. I’m very lucky to be able to do this with some frequency in the ensembles that I perform with! |
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John Sheets
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Posted: 25 Jan 2010 at 22:38 |
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Great post Pat.... I'm on business in Memphis but will follow this thread to see where it goes. |
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Bill Bergren
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Posted: 26 Jan 2010 at 07:41 |
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Section players can destroy the lead player with phrasing, intonation, energy level. This is the most difficult situation to fight through. The poor playing of the section always makes the lead player sound bad even if he is on.
If the rhythm section playing requires the counting of every rest, it makes for a less than enjoyable experience.
Lots of bitching on the stand makes playing very difficult.
Playing in my salsa band with five great soloists makes my solos rise to a higher level.
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Pat Harbison
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Posted: 12 Feb 2010 at 10:26 |
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I’m sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this. Nonetheless, the topic continues to be interesting to me. I agree with Bill that a weak section can weaken a strong player. Bad time, a constant search for a moving pitch center, a narrow range of dynamics and lack of support for the lead voice can all seriously diminish a trumpeter’s tone, endurance, accuracy, etc. ….and of course it also diminishes the joy of playing music. However, when I first posted this I was thinking more along the lines of the mental/psychological changes this causes and the creative challenges and general effect of the different group dynamic. In the two situations that inspired the first post I found that I adapted my thinking, manner and feelings to each circumstance to get the best musical and social result FROM EACH GROUP. This was a challenge and, upon reflection, probably not one I would have been up to had I not logged 35 years worth of jazz gig experience and the coping tools that has given me. To recap my initial situation, I was comparing two very enjoyable gigs played within a few days of each other. One was a jazz trio gig with guitar and string bass (both very lightly amplified). I was very clearly the leader on and off stage. The two musicians were very talented and skilled players in their 20s (the age of my own kids). We were playing jazz “standards” in a fairly small room for listening and a bit of dancing. Very quiet and graceful stuff. The other gig a few days later was a quintet gig (trumpet, guitar, bass, drums, Latin percussion) in a jazz club. In this group everyone is a very experienced professional jazz performer. It was a cooperative group and no one was defined as the leader. The guitarist and I took turns speaking to the audience. Two of the guys are in their mid to late 30s and the other three of us are in our mid 50s. While I feel like a peer of the musicians in this group, I feel like I am constantly required to stretch the limits of both my technique and my creativity in order to keep up with them. Sometimes I feel like I am being swept away by the energy (including, but not restricted to, volume). We were playing lots of original tunes and a few standards and well known jazz tunes for a listening jazz audience. Both gigs were pleasurable for me and I think we made some very good music. The quintet gig left me feeling both spent and exhilarated (We played the most uplifting version of Freedom Jazz Dance I have ever participated in). On both gigs I was doing most of the tune calling with the advice and consent of the others. When I played with the younger musicians, if a tune was vetoed it was usually because they didn’t know it. With the older band we would veto tune suggestions because the tempo, key, rhythmic feel or vibe wasn’t quite right for the moment. That was one clear difference. I guess the thing that got me thinking the hardest was how my role changed and my playing changed-beyond the obvious musical differences of repertoire and instrumentation. With the younger players I found myself having to talk a bit more between tunes with clear verbal instructions and reminders about details of the music. When playing, I also had to edit what I did so I sent clear musical signals and cues to guide them and help shape the music. This forced me to play and think in more clear and direct ways. It allowed me to more clearly shape the sound and direction of the entire group according to the way I was hearing the music. I controlled the dynamics and the sequence of events. It led me into a different kind of lyrical and uncluttered playing. However, it made it very hard not to be self-conscious and analytical much of the time. With the veteran band I could assume that everyone knew the repertoire and had a massive repository of knowledge, skills and great musical instincts formed by extensive experience and many years of immersion in the music. I didn’t have to think about guiding anyone else when I was playing. I could more easily clear my mind and focus on hearing and executing the missing trumpet parts. It was possible and absolutely vital that I try to stay 100% music conscious (in the world of sound) and 0% self-conscious. There was a feeling of complete trust that I couldn’t always find with the less experienced players. However, the level of demands on my skills and the extremely high level of both creative and physical energy required to keep up was very challenging. I seriously doubt that I could have been the leader onstage in the way I was with the younger group and had enough left over to completely fulfill my own performing role. Thoughts? Comments?
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Bill Bergren
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Posted: 16 Feb 2010 at 10:45 |
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Sports analogies keep coming to mind. A well versed infield will complete a double play by throwing the ball to the position with absolute confidence the player will be in position. It is the first baseman's job to be there and the throw goes to first base, not to the first baseman. If the throw from second has hesitation, no double play. When this trust and confidence gels, the whole becomes greater than the sum of the parts.
Sometimes when playing lead I can become too much the leader and the groove goes away. Then again if I just play along with the band it can become too much like an Aebersold play-a-long session. Everything is there but it still isn't happening. This is a very fine line and it changes with each performnce and certainly with each group.
Not being able to just let it out can be a real drag. Then again, sucking it up and getting the job done is a huge part of being a pro.
Much of the difference in the two groups you mentioned is simply awareness. This is not only due to playing experience, but the way the player has learned to learn. Hearing the interaction and being able to realize where the group is going is an art, not a science. Hence the different learning scenario and the effect it has.
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Pat Harbison
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Posted: 16 Feb 2010 at 13:15 |
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Great points! Over time and with experience some of us learn to learn. Others don't and their growth and their desirability as a performing colleague is limited.
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Glenn Roberts
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Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 11:28 |
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So really what you're alluding to is flexibility.
In this business there is no room for egos. My oboe/English horn player in my university band is also oboe/English horn in the wind ensemble I play with, and she has quite a performing resume. I feel very fortunate to have her in the group, but she fails to understand the flexibility; that the intermezzo of Holst's 1st suite is a different tempo in NSW than in SLU band simply by necessity. Sometimes, in situations like that, leading definitely gets in the way. Instead of leading by blending & showing musicianship, it becomes a mean-spirited "you're playing too slow" type of situation. So leading can also be modeling musicianship and ensemble playing in addition to or in place of taking charge. A real leader knows the difference and when which applies.
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Pat Harbison
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Posted: 18 Feb 2010 at 12:50 |
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Flexibility and adaptability are two of the most important qualities to succeeding as both a musician and a human being. Most people in music are trained in a fairly inflexible and narow way (especially today). This is why we must seek out experiences and influences that will promote these qualities. We will be better musicians and find considerably more creative pleasure when we achieve this kind of openness.
This is one of the core principles of the clinic that Alex and I are preparing to give next week at the Trumpet Festival of the Southeast in Alabama.
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